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		<title>By: Melodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for posting this.  We began learning about biblical discipline only a year ago and I feel discouraged with my 3 year old that I had not put these rules/consequences into effect earlier on.  We are training in earnest now and started from day one with our 7 month old, thanks to your site and many others like it. God Bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for posting this.  We began learning about biblical discipline only a year ago and I feel discouraged with my 3 year old that I had not put these rules/consequences into effect earlier on.  We are training in earnest now and started from day one with our 7 month old, thanks to your site and many others like it. God Bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Joy Albrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Joy Albrecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw! Needed to hear this today. Guns blazin&#039;.. yep. So hard to hear criticism sometimes, especially when you know you&#039;re behind... but necessary. Thankful for patient husbands :)

Thanks for sharing this post with me, Kimarie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw! Needed to hear this today. Guns blazin&#8217;.. yep. So hard to hear criticism sometimes, especially when you know you&#8217;re behind&#8230; but necessary. Thankful for patient husbands <img src='http://raisingolives.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this post with me, Kimarie!</p>
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		<title>By: Raising Olives</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>Raising Olives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice,

When our kids get out of control we stop everything else that we are doing.  The goal is to get things back in order with the children.  Depending on how severe the problems are, see if you can order food in or perhaps just use food from the freezer, don&#039;t worry about getting behind on housework and certainly don&#039;t leave the house.  The kids need 100% consistency.  

First pray, pray, pray.  It doesn&#039;t matter what we do as parents ultimately God must work for our children to change.  We can just be faithful with what He commands us to do and we leave the results up to him.  Remember this when things get tough.  You are not responsible for your children&#039;s actions. You are responsible for how you respond to those actions.

Now, sit down with the whole family and mom and dad should ask forgiveness from the children for not teaching and training them properly.  Use scripture to show them where you were wrong. (&quot;Train up a child in the way he should go.&quot; &quot;Fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.&quot; and more.)  Tell them that you have done something wrong and that it has negatively affected them, but that you are sorry and you are all going to work together to make it better, but it is going to be hard work.  Make sure that there will be big changes for them and that what has been acceptable will not be in the future.

Then give your children one rule, yes only one.  They must obey mom and dad, that&#039;s it.  Show them in scripture where this is required, i.e. &quot;Children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right.&quot;  Now there are 3 ways that they must obey in order for it to be true obedience.  They must obey quickly, cheerfully and completely. You may want to post a sign on the fridge (my parents did that when I was little) with scripture, so they know that you have told them what is required.  Even if they can&#039;t read you can tell them what the sign says and point it out when they don&#039;t obey.

Now here is the hard part.  Every time one of your children does not obey quickly, cheerfully or completely you must stop what you are doing and correct them.  Then if they don&#039;t obey as they are being corrected, you need to correct them again and again and again.  It will seem that you are spending your whole day correcting your children.  That is OK (and why I suggested having food brought in or cooking ahead and eating out of your freezer), your responsibility is to respond correctly to your children&#039;s sin.  God commands it.  &quot;He who withholds his rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently.&quot;

This won&#039;t last forever and the more consistent that you are the more quickly this phase will pass.  We call it Olive boot camp and at our house boot camp has never lasted more than a couple of days.  You will probably have longer because this is something to which your children are unaccustomed, but don&#039;t despair.  Just be faithful in what God has called you to do and He will bless your efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice,</p>
<p>When our kids get out of control we stop everything else that we are doing.  The goal is to get things back in order with the children.  Depending on how severe the problems are, see if you can order food in or perhaps just use food from the freezer, don&#8217;t worry about getting behind on housework and certainly don&#8217;t leave the house.  The kids need 100% consistency.  </p>
<p>First pray, pray, pray.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what we do as parents ultimately God must work for our children to change.  We can just be faithful with what He commands us to do and we leave the results up to him.  Remember this when things get tough.  You are not responsible for your children&#8217;s actions. You are responsible for how you respond to those actions.</p>
<p>Now, sit down with the whole family and mom and dad should ask forgiveness from the children for not teaching and training them properly.  Use scripture to show them where you were wrong. (&#8220;Train up a child in the way he should go.&#8221; &#8220;Fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.&#8221; and more.)  Tell them that you have done something wrong and that it has negatively affected them, but that you are sorry and you are all going to work together to make it better, but it is going to be hard work.  Make sure that there will be big changes for them and that what has been acceptable will not be in the future.</p>
<p>Then give your children one rule, yes only one.  They must obey mom and dad, that&#8217;s it.  Show them in scripture where this is required, i.e. &#8220;Children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right.&#8221;  Now there are 3 ways that they must obey in order for it to be true obedience.  They must obey quickly, cheerfully and completely. You may want to post a sign on the fridge (my parents did that when I was little) with scripture, so they know that you have told them what is required.  Even if they can&#8217;t read you can tell them what the sign says and point it out when they don&#8217;t obey.</p>
<p>Now here is the hard part.  Every time one of your children does not obey quickly, cheerfully or completely you must stop what you are doing and correct them.  Then if they don&#8217;t obey as they are being corrected, you need to correct them again and again and again.  It will seem that you are spending your whole day correcting your children.  That is OK (and why I suggested having food brought in or cooking ahead and eating out of your freezer), your responsibility is to respond correctly to your children&#8217;s sin.  God commands it.  &#8220;He who withholds his rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently.&#8221;</p>
<p>This won&#8217;t last forever and the more consistent that you are the more quickly this phase will pass.  We call it Olive boot camp and at our house boot camp has never lasted more than a couple of days.  You will probably have longer because this is something to which your children are unaccustomed, but don&#8217;t despair.  Just be faithful in what God has called you to do and He will bless your efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3515</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How true this is!  This is just what I needed to hear today.  Thanks for sharing from the heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How true this is!  This is just what I needed to hear today.  Thanks for sharing from the heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Fruitful Harvest</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3512</link>
		<dc:creator>Fruitful Harvest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great reminder.....I can kind of laugh now. But in the begining of my parenting when I only had a few kiddos(I now have 6 kiddos)
I would lets things go then pull out the BIG guns...yelling and shouting at everyone!

Awesome job on the post!

I also really like the scriptures that tie it all together!

Warmly,
Georgiann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great reminder&#8230;..I can kind of laugh now. But in the begining of my parenting when I only had a few kiddos(I now have 6 kiddos)<br />
I would lets things go then pull out the BIG guns&#8230;yelling and shouting at everyone!</p>
<p>Awesome job on the post!</p>
<p>I also really like the scriptures that tie it all together!</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Georgiann</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3511</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was so helpful to read, and I would love to read more here about child training. Also, a question: So, if I have an almost-5-year-old and a 3-year-old who have not been properly trained and are almost unmanageable, how in the world do I go about training them? I love the part about being patient, but we currently can&#039;t go out, so surely something quicker has to happen to some degree?! I wish I had trained them properly from early on. I just didn&#039;t know about the importance of starting young, back then. I am working on training my 19-month-old though - lesson learned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was so helpful to read, and I would love to read more here about child training. Also, a question: So, if I have an almost-5-year-old and a 3-year-old who have not been properly trained and are almost unmanageable, how in the world do I go about training them? I love the part about being patient, but we currently can&#8217;t go out, so surely something quicker has to happen to some degree?! I wish I had trained them properly from early on. I just didn&#8217;t know about the importance of starting young, back then. I am working on training my 19-month-old though &#8211; lesson learned!</p>
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		<title>By: the inadvertent farmer</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3508</link>
		<dc:creator>the inadvertent farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much...as mom&#039;s we all need this reminder once in a while.  Now I&#039;m gonna go clean my shower!  Kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much&#8230;as mom&#8217;s we all need this reminder once in a while.  Now I&#8217;m gonna go clean my shower!  Kim</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is a great post, addressing not only the importance of training, but the importance of training both quickly and gently.  That is not something I often see written together.  

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is a great post, addressing not only the importance of training, but the importance of training both quickly and gently.  That is not something I often see written together.  </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan from the Crew</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3505</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan from the Crew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally needed this reminder today.  Especially to be gentle and patient instead of waiting too long then crushing our children&#039;s spirits.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally needed this reminder today.  Especially to be gentle and patient instead of waiting too long then crushing our children&#8217;s spirits.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3504</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://raisingolives.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-child-training-or-what-i-learned-while-cleaning-my-bathtub/#comment-3503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT post!</p>
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