Sleep Overs, Romance Novels, Peer Influence and Bible Translations: 4 Moms Q & A

There is so much I want to post about, but I find so little time to sit down and spend in front of the computer. So today, I’m just going to jump in and answer some reader questions from my email inbox and from the 4 Mom’s Facebook page.

Gencie asks, “What Bible translation do you use: for personal reading, for study, for reading to the kids?”

Our family has a handful of translations that we will use. The New American Standard Version, the King James Version, the New King James Version, the Geneva Bible and the English Standard Version.

We don’t have a particular version that we use for a particular task.

One note about the ESV: adult topics are generally translated in much plainer language than the other versions that we use.

For example Genesis 38:9:

King James Version

Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

English Standard Version

But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother’s wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother.

Shannon wondered about, “Hotels with large families!”

We don’t do them. We just can’t afford it.

The kids at Niagra Falls, Canada Back Row: Sadie (9), Kaitlin (15), Matthew (14), Amber (16), Carter (11), Bella (3), Colby (6), Alyssa (12) Front Row: Savannah (8), Nicholas (5)

The kids at Niagra Falls, Canada (we camped, instead of opting for a hotel)

Back  a little more than 10 years ago (the last time we stayed in a hotel), no one asked how many people would be staying in a room. At that time with 6 or so small children, we rented one room and squeezed everyone in, no problem.

Then some legislation was passed in regard to fire codes or something and now all hotels have a maximum number of people they will allow per room. We simply can’t afford to pay for 3 hotel rooms and so we don’t stay in hotels. Instead we choose to tent camp, rent a house or stay in a bed and breakfast as all of these options are less expensive for our family than staying in a hotel.

Carrie wanted to know about “sibling bickering”.

I’ve talked a lot about this topic:

Have any other big families changed your thinking on things and if so, how?

Camping Brackney Horton Canada

Story time around the campfire in Canada with two other large families (25 kids and 6 adults for those who are wondering)

Yes. We have been blessed to be part of a Christian community both here and back where we lived before we moved here, that is more like family than anything else. We work, play and live together (as a matter of fact we just spent a week tent camping in Canada with two other families from our community). We pray for and with each other. We discuss scripture, books and sermons and we learn and push each other all. the. time.

Bella (3) "Goin' on a lion hunt" camping in Canada

Bella (3) “Goin’ on a lion hunt” around the campfire in Canada

HOW have others changed our thinking? God has used this community/family consistently and relentlessly to help us to grow in Him. With all the discussion and interaction, it’s hard to give specifics because the influence has been far reaching. It reminds me of the multitude of Proverbs that speak of the importance of godly companions. We’ve been greatly blessed in this area.

Jenny asked two questions. “Do you allow your children to sleep over at friends’ homes?

We haven’t to this point.

This is not an absolute rule, but up to this point it hasn’t really come up. Most (all?) of our kids’ friends’ families have the same standards on spending the night that we do.

Depending upon the circumstances, we would consider it, but honestly, how much good comes from a group of 10 years olds talking all night long with no adult supervision?

Bella (3) with friend Eden (4) at Pepper Palace, Canada (Eden's family owns Pepper Palace Canada)

Bella (3) with friend Eden (4) at Pepper Palace, Canada (Eden’s family owns Pepper Palace Canada)

Our kids have had several occasions to spend the night with their many cousins.

Do you allow your teenage girls to read (Christian) romance novels?

They haven’t read any up to this point. Again, this is not an absolute rule, but all (and I haven’t read a lot in that genre) the “Christian” romance novels that I’ve read have been drivel with very little, if any, literary or theologic value.

With so many valuable things to read, we just haven’t seen the point in wasting our time on that genre. Honestly, we haven’t told them they couldn’t, we just haven’t included it in our home library or put it onto their suggested reading lists.

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6 Responses to Sleep Overs, Romance Novels, Peer Influence and Bible Translations: 4 Moms Q & A
  1. Katie
    July 25, 2013 | 9:28 am

    You have a knack for making things so simple. Thanks for being an encouragement to us all in life and godliness.


  2. Jenny
    July 25, 2013 | 12:54 pm

    What about books that aren’t specifically romance, but contain romantic elements? For example, I hesitated to let my daughter (13) read Mara, Daughter of the Nile. I did end up letting her read it because of its other value, but I noticed that she went back and re-read the parts that had romantic elements. I’m not trying to shield her completely as it is a part of life, but I don’t want that to be her focus at her young age.


  3. Melanie
    July 25, 2013 | 1:11 pm

    Where do you stay when you camp? I’m assuming this is also en route to your destination? We are traveling across a few states for the second time this summer, and we are having a hard time finding hotel rooms that will hold 7 of us without either costing a fortune or being scary. We have one chain that works for us, we can get a suite there at a decent price if we book early enough, but we will grow out of that with our next child too!


  4. Lisa Reynoso
    July 26, 2013 | 3:05 am

    I think the big problem with romance novels (and those that contain it) is that it can create unrealistic expectations. It’s bad enough for us as adult women who are happily married to godly men (who are, of course, less than perfect), but for a teenager who does not understand the experience of a relationship, it can create unrealistic expectations of what a man should be like and what he should do in the relationship. Some books that I have read do a better job than others. I remember reading Anne of Green Gables, and that was about the limit that I think I would allow my daughter to read. I recently read some novels set in the Amish community, and there was romance there, but it was not the theme. My daughter is 6, but I foresee reading books like those I’ve mentioned and discussing these themes. What I would forbid, or simply discourage, would be determined by her reaction to the things she read. If she kept defeating the romantic parts, I would be concerned. I think back to the things *I* reread as a child and witsh my mom had known. It wasn’t the romantic parts, but enough said.


  5. K Down Under
    July 26, 2013 | 7:43 am

    As a now-grown-up-and-married reader of all sorts of books, I would suggest sticking to older classics. Anne of Green Gables, What Katy Did, the Seven Little Australians series if you can find it- all include a little bit of “romance” without it being too fanciful, unrealistic or sex-focussed. I also really appreciated reading Redeeming Love (loosely based on the themes of Hosea) as a novel with theological value.


  6. Katiemom12
    July 26, 2013 | 12:53 pm

    So what books are in your home library, and what books are on your suggested reading list?


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